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Nov. 12th, 2003 05:27 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
changelingGacked from Steph:
I had not heard the original phrase mentioned here before. It's another case of my coming across the Pratchett allusion before the real thing ("Aha. The Fifth Elephant. Are you sure? There's some good iron now. Iron makes you strong. Fat only makes you slippery."):
The choice between peace and war goes back to an early stage in human history, but the guns-or-butter metaphor did not emerge until the twentieth century. It was invented, according to William Safire, by Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s propaganda minister, who said, "We can do without butter, but, despite all our love of peace, not without arms. One cannot shoot with butter but with arms." Shortly, Hermann Goering, the head of the German Air Force, said in a radio speech: "Guns will make us powerful; butter will only make us fat." Goering must have been speaking from the heart because he was very fat.
Irving Bernstein, Guns and Butter: The Presidency of Lyndon Johnson (New York: Oxford University Press, 1996) p526
I had not heard the original phrase mentioned here before. It's another case of my coming across the Pratchett allusion before the real thing ("Aha. The Fifth Elephant. Are you sure? There's some good iron now. Iron makes you strong. Fat only makes you slippery."):
The choice between peace and war goes back to an early stage in human history, but the guns-or-butter metaphor did not emerge until the twentieth century. It was invented, according to William Safire, by Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s propaganda minister, who said, "We can do without butter, but, despite all our love of peace, not without arms. One cannot shoot with butter but with arms." Shortly, Hermann Goering, the head of the German Air Force, said in a radio speech: "Guns will make us powerful; butter will only make us fat." Goering must have been speaking from the heart because he was very fat.
Irving Bernstein, Guns and Butter: The Presidency of Lyndon Johnson (New York: Oxford University Press, 1996) p526
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